Puppy Trouble!
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| Do a search for nipping. There are lots of forum topics on this-- it's very common in OES, as they're a herding breed.
As far as getting up in the middle of night, all pups are different. The best advice I'd give is to be firm and don't give in to him. I don't think I slept a full night until Clyde was about 5 months old. Finally, when he was trustworthy enough, I let him upstairs and he chose to sleep in the bathroom outside our bedroom and we've all been sleeping soundly ever since. Well, actually, now Clyde sleeps next to the bed and our young Komondor took over the bathroom but it still works! |
Make sure you hve some chewy toys in the crate with him. maybe he will chew or play with them instead of wanting to play with you in the middle of the night. Also, a long walk or run - with you with him - will help. just be srue he does pee pee after the exercise and before he goes in crate for night. I would suggest you don't just let him run outside alone. It won't satisfy his desire to be with you 
At 8 weeks old he really can't hold it all night long. I got up a few times in the night for mine at that age. I would take him out, go potty and then sit on the floor with his maybe five minutes or so and play with a bone and then out quick again and in crate...Ten or 15 minutes of play every two or three hours for an 8 week old should get him sleepy. I think a puppy that ages requires about 12 hours of sleep.. Good luck...and remember he won't stay a puppy for long. A little inconvience for a few weeks will make your life much easier for the next hopefully 15 years to come! |
| When he nips a loud/high-pitched "ow" or a yelp like a puppy helps to signal to a puppy that it hurts. Really ham it up and exaggerate - even when it doesn't actually hurt. Having good timing with your yelp will help to teach him bite inhibition.... so important to teach now while he's still small.
Yelp and then remove yourself - mentally (turn away and ignore him) or physically (leave the room) for a few seconds - 30 seconds at most. Then return to play and try directing his attention to a toy. Sometimes puppies just get too excited and carried away.... like, psycho puppy hour in the evening. Then we would crate Barkley for a little while with a stuffed kong.... 15-30 minutes so he would chill out and calm down. Also, getting him out to play with other puppies (when he is fully vaccinated and your vet gives you the okay) will help teach him bite inhibition as puppies are much better at giving eachother appropriate reactions to nipping than we are. I don't have any advice for his nighttime demands to play. Ignoring him is easier said than done.  |
| At 8 weeks you probably can't take him out for walks yet, as that would risk exposing him to un-vaccinated dogs and their poop. It depends on your vet's vaccination schedule.
Do ask your vet or your breeder at what age (or after what round of shots) you are able to take Max out for walks based on Max's vaccinations. |
| I do have most of his toys in his crate at night...at least the ones he plays with the most. I try to exercise him and take him out one last time before he goes to bed. I usually try to feed and water him about 2 hours before bedtime then take him out right before bed time. I don't let him outside alone...I take him and stay out there with him until he goes potty.
I realize at 8 weeks he won't sleep or hold it all night. I am just having trouble getting him back to sleep once he does use the bathroom in the middle of the night. I don't let him use the bathroom and then pick him up right after the fact and take him to his crate...I do let him play a little bit after he potty's but I didn't know if you let them play too long in the middle of the night that they would want to later...didn't want to start any bad habits. I don't mind taking him out I just wish he would go back to sleep. Thanks for the advice. |
| I don't take him on walks because I am affraid of getting him sick. I do however take him out and let him run around our yard. I keep my eye on him the whole time and try my best to keep him away from other dogs and their belongings. |
| As for his nipping your pants & arms, etc. when he starts to do this, put one of his chew toys in his mouth. Every time. He will drop it and come right back to you, so you have to be as persistent as he is.
This way, he learns what is appropriate to chew on and what is not. Those puppy teeth are incredibly sharp and can easily hurt you, so be sure to have toys handy. |
I remember those days... I didn't get much sleep back then! Puppies are tough, and he's not going to catch on to the whole "night is for sleeping" thing for a while. It might be best not to play with him at all after he potties. I would just bring Bailey down and bring him back up - no lights turned on, no excitement, no playtime. I'm not much fun at 2am 
Good suggestions on the nipping. When Bailey got that way, I would sit at the high kitchen counter and ignore him completely. It was too high for him to get at me, and he figured out pretty quickly that I wasn't going to play when he was biting. I also used the "puppy roll', which I know some people don't like but it would calm him down really fast. My husband, on the other hand, indulged the bad behavior and had scars on his arms for 4 months. So I'd suggest that you go for the discipline! |
| STUFF 'EM. Honestly. We did this with Bingley for months. And now he knows he's not supposed to play with us unless he has a toy already in his mouth. (He's 8 months old). Every time he played near us we give him a toy he could chew on and then praised him lavishly. Of course he would drop it after a whole 10 seconds maybe so we'd have another one right there waiting! it doesn't stop everything but it reinforces positive behavior and will help in the long run! |
Emily's right! We did that with Barkley too, and now at 8 months he brings us a toy (or a shoe or a towel) when he wants to play.  |
| Hi I'm just visiting this forum after buying my first OES!! He's called george and we live in Newcastle upon Tyne in the UK.
I have found that the best way to stop a puppy biting is to make you hand into a fist as he bites you. Hold it in his mouth (without pushing). This makes your pups gag a little bit (a bit like going to the dentist) and he won't like it. Don't talk to him as you do this as he has to think that it is his actions that are causing the reaction and not you! You might find that he even licks your hand afterwards!! I know George does!! |
| Hi, welcome to you and George, sign and and send us some pictures...Kathy & Chauncey |
Anonymous wrote: Hi I'm just visiting this forum after buying my first OES!! He's called george and we live in Newcastle upon Tyne in the UK.
I have found that the best way to stop a puppy biting is to make you hand into a fist as he bites you. Hold it in his mouth (without pushing). This makes your pups gag a little bit (a bit like going to the dentist) and he won't like it. Don't talk to him as you do this as he has to think that it is his actions that are causing the reaction and not you! You might find that he even licks your hand afterwards!! I know George does!! HEY GEORGE NEVEILLE HERE im from newcastle upon tyne i live in californai now have been since 1981 i have a oes benji whos listed here to 11 months now polar bear almost 80ibs and growing like a weed |
| I know we had a German Shepherd that liked to bite your pant legs when you'd walk by her. One thing we learned from a trainer is that dogs that herd want something to do. Grabbing your pant leg is their way of using their herding instinct. If Max grabs your pant legs while you're walking along give him a job, as a herding dog he craves a job. Our shepherd would grab pant legs when walking to the mail box or on other long walks so we would give her the mail (put that junk mail to good use ) to carry back to the house, or on other occasions we would have her carry her ball. It worked out great and by 6-8 months her bad habit turned into a good one. Herders love to do their job so make it a positive thing for Max. You'll be surprised what he'll learn. |
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