Links to MySpace.com--Banned?
I have seen people's profiles which can be fairly rude and certainly not family friendly. Whenever someone joins the forum or adds their myspace profile to their oes.org profile, I check out the profile for its family friendliness. When I signed up, the first friend I got was Tom. I assume this guy is the founder of the myspace site. So I clicked through to his profile, and find that the background music he is playing on it is a song called "Jane Fonda" by Mickey Avalon. This song contains explicit lyrics. I don't understand what they possibly could be thinking to have a link to a non-family friendly profile as the first thing a new member sees. I contacted myspace support about this, using their form to report obscenity, telling them the same story as I have outlined here. 17 days later they respond with: Quote: Please send us a link to where the content can be located so that we may remove it. Please be specific as to where the content can be located. So I reply:Thank You, Myspace Quote: You're kidding me, right? 17 days to get back to me, meanwhile this The email bounces back. "No such user". So I guess I'll have to go through the whole 17 day process again?
obscenity has continued to be viewed and listened to by every new member? Right on Tom's profile page, the song that is still playing, "Jane Fonda", has obscene lyrics in it. Here, I'll reproduce them for you: >>Baby Baby Baby... >>Baby was Jen's best friend >>and maybe if you were lucky >>licky licky sucky sucky >>Mickey Mickey, f--- me f--- me >>more junk in her trunk than a Honda >>I know you wanna do the Jane Fonda That's a nice family friendly hello from the head of myspace. I'm no prude, but c'mon, in what is essentially the welcome page from the owner? WHAT are you folks thinking??? No profiles on MySpace will be allowed on oes.org No links from oes.org will be allowed. Sorry. So here's my dilemma. MySpace has some great profiles on it, but it is also a large cesspool. Should oes.org follow through and ban links to MySpace? Why or why not? Thanks. |
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| Ban it, if it took 17 days for a reply to your e-mail, they obviously can't monitor it very well. |
| I'm sure I can live without it. Never seen it, so I'm sure I wont miss it.Thanks for your vigilance, Ron. |
I still don't see the point of myspace... I know it's hugely popular, but I don't know why.  |
| MySpace can be a cesspool because it's heavily populated by people under 30. I know every time I hear of a crime against a child/teen, they reference checking the web and investigating that child's MySpace page. It seems that no matter how much warning you give them about pedophiles browsing the site, they all feel invulnerable. What a shame.
Both my kids have MySpace pages, as does my son's band, in their Music section. My daughter has her page locked - meaning you have to apply to be her "friend" and she has to accept you before you can read her page. It IS a very vulgar place on the web, though. There apparently are no obscenity filters, and I think that's one thing the kids like so much - they can talk however they want and feel like big shots. Makes you wonder if they talk to their parents like that! Mine know better - they have 2 languages. One they use when they talk to us, and one they use when they talk to friends. Guess that's normal. Although I just close a blind eye to most of the obscenity, I do think it would be wise to ban links to it from oes.org. JMHO. |
| BAN IT! |
| Please BAN IT. |
| I'd suggest just removing Tom as a friend, which you can do. I'm not really sure what you want to ban. People who include their own myspace page as a link, like in a post or their signature? I guess I'd prefer it as a case my case basis. Not everyone's profile is obscene and, chances are, anyone on here is not going to leave a link to an "obscene" profile either.
I use myspace to catch up with people that I don't see all the time or don't really want to. That way I can still see what's going on in their lives without being too involved! Then other people really are my friends and they post events that they're doing (we have a lot of friends in the art and music business) or projects that they're doing. I have a lot of friends who actually use it for their pets' web pages or even just for their kids, like a place to post pictures and talk about their lives. It's not all bad. |
| In addition to preventing having to look at every kink to myspace, to check for content, then recheck and recheck that no obscene comments have been left on your profile by someone else, and to ensure that any page linked to in your profile doesn't contain inappropriate material....
I'd like to make a point to myspace that they must be able to classify pages as family friendly or not; or restrict all of their site from people under some age, like 13 or 16. They MUST employ enough people, volunteer or paid, to patrol their sites and classify their pages. This is just insanity; people don't control the content of their own pages! Once they allow people to post as a friend, someone can enter code and video and whatever directly into someone else's page. If they can't respond in under two weeks to complaints of obscene material, they cannot possibly be considered a family friendly site at this point. (Even your page, ButtersStotch, might be borderline with your friend's sketch, and your comments on his page that are linked to from yours. I am being intentionally vague. I am not saying it IS inappropriate, just that some people might think it was getting close.) Being a Family Friendly site carries a responsibility to prevent inappropriate material and not link to inappropriate sites. In addition, you have to link only to sites that follow the same guidelines. That's hard enough with traditional sites, but with myspace.... hoo boy. Can you tell which way I'm leaning? |
| If it's just about being family friendly and it's a huge deal then go ahead and ban it. I was just making a point that not everyone's page is terrible, not to mention everyone's ides of what is obscene is very different. Heck, the media can't even decide on that one!
Lol. Ron, I'll have you know that that sketch is from a breast cancer instruction card. I made it into a man and added hair. It looks just like James so I'm gonna tell him what you said.  |
| I'd just remove him as a friend too (and I did). I use mine to keep in touch with family and friends who live away, because I hate talking on the phone! lol
Mine has always been family-friendly - right now it's decked out with New Orleans Saints stuff.  |
| I've never gone to Myspace...something about just scares me. (I think its cuz I'm old) |
| I hate the concept of censorhip but I hate even more people getting their jollies by offending me.
So initially the sites could be screened by Ron. Thereafter, if we go to the site and find something offensive, we could run back to Ron and let him know. Then if he concurs the site is offensive he would have the option of terminating the person's access to OES.org . Actually I have no interest in going to MySpace. I prefer to keep my sheepies chats and pictures right here where I know things are screened. sheepieboss |
| I think there should just be some disclaimer saying that oes takes no responsibility for anybodies MySpace accounts and that they are not screened and may not be appropriate.
A lot of people, like me, use it to keep in touch with people, not little preteens trying to act 23! Shannon |
| Geeesh, "screened" seems like such a harsh word.
We HARDLY EVER modify a post because of content issues, I don't think that I've EVER deleted a picture. Our members are such a great group of people. I constantly remove spam memberships and have implemented some code that prevents a member's links from showing up until the membership has been reviewed. I DO edit post subject lines to make them a little more "user-friendly". For instance if someone's title is just "HELP!" I'll change it to something like "Help! My dog keeps licking my face" or whatever the issue is. |
Ron wrote: I don't think that I've EVER deleted a picture.
Maybe you could start with the tick belly picture... |
srw808 wrote: I think there should just be some disclaimer saying that oes takes no responsibility for anybodies MySpace accounts and that they are not screened and may not be appropriate.
A lot of people, like me, use it to keep in touch with people, not little preteens trying to act 23! Shannon Then where do you draw the line as far as personal websites? The whole point in making this a family friendly site is "being responsible" about what is linked and can be found through coming to oes.org. I am POSITIVE Ron trusts us to have PG rated personal profiles IF we chose to link it, but I totally agree that SOME people can't guarantee someone won't leave questionable material under the comments section or a friend on someone's list won't change their avatar to something questionable that practically shows their boobs. There is too much questionable and way overboard material on that website. Way too much of a responsibility for the moderators and Ron to keep track of your profiles to make sure you don't go join a group that can be seen from your main page. I'm happy that most schools ban that website from being searched on the internet! Sucks for innocent people like you guys, but good for people that think it's not a G/PG site. |
| It's silly to even debate. If it's too much work for the moderators, then just ban them. If it endangers the family friendly rating, then ban it. Admittedly, I'm an adult and there may very well be adult content on my page at some point, whether it be a joke, or a funny picture or just something sarcastic that isn't "family friendly." If someone wants to share a profile, they can always e-mail the URL to the person that they want to see it. |
Ron wrote: Geeesh, "screened" seems like such a harsh word.
We HARDLY EVER modify a post because of content issues, I don't think that I've EVER deleted a picture. Our members are such a great group of people. I constantly remove spam memberships and have implemented some code that prevents a member's links from showing up until the membership has been reviewed. I DO edit post subject lines to make them a little more "user-friendly". For instance if someone's title is just "HELP!" I'll change it to something like "Help! My dog keeps licking my face" or whatever the issue is. Ron, if you DO edit post subject lines to make them a little more "user-friendly" you could have fixed my spelling on: " Harley is naked. Shhh.. don't laugh he is so imbarased." .....so I would not be so embarrassed....LOL.... 
Antoinette |
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| I agree.. just ban them. I think a lot of the junk on there is too questionable for most family friendly sites.
Nic |
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