Curfews
Violence, stabbings, drinking problems, vandalism etc with some as young as 10,11 & 12. Good idea or not? It is being talked about here at the moment in communities that want this brought in & are having problems with youths let to run around all hours of the night without any sort of supervision and any knowledge from parents as to where their kids are and what they are doing. Also should parents be held responsible and be charged, fined etc for what there under 16 years old get up too and also be made to compensate for any damages done by their kids and be held accoountable for every action there youngster does? Interesting concept, look forward to hearing your opinions. And yes the good old Civil Libertarians are already voicing there objections  |
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| Curfews would not be necessary if parents did their jobs. Unfortunately parents DON'T so I am all for a curfew, cival liberties be damned.
Two days agod a 15 year old and a 16year old were killed in an accident (involving alcohol of course) in my town at some absurd hour of the morning. Had they been home where they belonged they would still be alive. WHERE WERE THE PARENTS??????????? |
| We have curfews like that in several towns here. Kids under 16 have to be in by 11:00 in Charlotte. If they are not, and are arrested for a crime after those hours, the parents are charged too.
Personally, I think it's a crying shame that it has to be a LAW that you keep your kids home. It seems to me that common sense would tell you that.  |
| I agree with all of the above.
Plus a LAW allows parents with no backbone to enforce a curfew. Although the parents of the problem children will probably still let them run amok. |
I agree we have the same problems here kids as young as 8 are out causeing havoc damaging peoples property there was talk off bringing curfews here i wish they would. On many an occiasion ive gone to the parents doors and told them off the damage they have done (TO OUR PROPERTY) and all we get is abuse from the parents. Its the same everywhere in our area the same kids doing it. and the police cant do anything about it.  |
| I know in San Diego there was a curfew for kids under 18. You couldn't be just out and about past 10--you could be en route home or you could be actively leaving someplace, like a movie theater.
Apparently there's a curfew here in Richmond for I think kids under 18. Well on New Year's a 16 year old girl was leaving a party and was drunk and ran a red light and killed a guy...so on top of being charged with the alcohol violation and manslaughter she's being charged with a curfew infraction. As a former kid, I think they're a pain in the butt, but I don't think they infringe on civil liberties or anything. As a grownup, I think they do help keep kids and everyone else safer, since kids just don't always have the judgement needed to make good decisions... |
| New Orleans is looking to put a curfew for all not just for teens as their homicide rate is already through the roof and the year just started. There is a lot of debate on that issue down here.
Here in Baton Rouge we have a curfew for kids under 16 unless they are with a parent or guardian. Does it get enforced? Nope. I just want to know where are the parents? And what happened to parental responsibility? |
I think the curfew in all the places I've lived in Texas was 12 am unless you were accompanied by a parent. Not that I ever snuck out the window and got busted by the cops. Thankfully the only time anyone got sent to the police station was a night I decided to stay inside.  Ahhhh, those were the days.... |
| I am a total Civil Libertarian, however, since parents don't wanna put their feet down, it seems reasonalble that the government will have to put down theirs.
I remember when I was a kid, I always had to be in before bedtime. Yes. I had a bedtime until I was I think 17. But It was always before 9. Bed usually was around 10. Of course in the summertime I didnot have a bedtime, but I did have to be in around 9. My parents just didn't see why I needed to be out that late! And quite fankly I don't either.
Parents DO need to be held more responsible for their children's actions. As difficult as it may seem to keep track of your kids, it needs to be done. My parent ALWAYS knew where I was growing up, they were the type to call and make sure I actually was where I said I was going to be. And it wasn't to be meddlesome, just to be safe. They loved me and I knew it. Now parents are afraid to do anything, so if the states put curfews in effect, maybe they will think it's alright to parent a little. This is so annoying to me. Kids shouldn't be making so much mahem.
Nic |
I agree totally.....(unless of cource they are working????  )
My son just turned 15 and is a workaholic already....  ..and will work pat 11:00PM. Of cource he is not out and about, becuase we have to pick him up to bring him home.
Other than that he hangs at his friend's place, or they hang at ours...Or at a movie or whatever. Do the curphews mean the kids are not out of the home at all? Like if kids go to a 10:00pm movie, that finishes after curphew, it that OK because they are still on private property? But they canot walk home, so need a ride? |
| Nicole, I don't know if different places have different laws that go with their curfews, but when I was a kid, the curfew was for kids in public places...you could be traveling home from an event and not be fined for being out, or you could have exceptions, like your son would have--from working past the curfew. |
| No, kids working are different.
Also, where "I" lived, if you were the passenger in a car, and the driver was over 18, they wouldn't just "question" you unless you showed them a reason to (like you had alcohol in your hand). Even if they knew you were under 18, they left the passenger alone. Our rules were mostly for kids on the street. I believe you were even allowed to stay in your driveway, but had to prove it was yours. |
Tasker's Mom wrote: WHERE WERE THE PARENTS???????????
Although I agree with this, there are those times when parents do everything they can-- and then they get a kid like me. I'd sneak out at all hours of the night, while my mom was sleeping and be home before she woke up. She couldn't do anything because she didn't know and had no reason to suspect. Then the one time that I did do something really bad and got in trouble, and they called her to come get me, I never felt worse when they asked her the same question. "Where were you?" My mom was an excellent mom but I WAS NOT an excellent kid. Just hearing my mom get blamed like that straightened me out forever. |
| Jill, you were lucky - my parents never came to
bail me out. I knew from a very young age what the rules were and what was expected and if I got caught - I paid the price. (and boy did I pay)
Shellie |
| So when I was thinking about this yesterday I decided to look up juvenile curfews and I just skimmed a few articles online and they all said that when polled, the majority of people said they felt safer and they felt that it deterred crime when juvenile were given a curfew by the city.
The article then goes on to state there is no hard evidence to back this up. That it doesn't appear to have much effect at all on crime rates and in the particular article I was reading, it said that the highest juvenile crimes rates were roughly 3pm and 6pm. I thought this was interesting. |
Shellie wrote: Jill, you were lucky - my parents never came to
bail me out. I knew from a very young age what the rules were and what was expected and if I got caught - I paid the price. (and boy did I pay) Shellie Oh, I paid, believe me. The only reason she came is because she needed her insurance to cover the damage that I did and she didn't want to get sued since I was a minor. |
| I guess I thought parents were responsible for their children until the brats were 18. If this were followed, then any damage done by the minor would be the parent's responsiblity. Yes, there will always be the parent that will pay the fine and continue to ignore the child; however if jail time for both were to be instigated.................well, I can dream can't I?
Recently several chronic taggers were found guilty along with their parents !! as are to repay for damage caused. It's a start. The city has a curfew law, but I can't find it quickly. Still it is used mainly to break up congregations in parking lots where drinking, drugs, sex and violence occur. While I don't want a police state, I believe we need to get a handle on this. The more the kids congregate unsupervised the greater the gang problem becomes. Right now the gangs pretty much pick on each other, but when will they routinely turn on the public? |
| There are town curfews here for kids under 16.... I'm not sure what the curfew is, but I do think it's a good idea.
My kids have early curfews, for my 16 year old 9pm on school nights, 11pm on weekends but I always know exactly where she is. She is not out just wandering the streets... that's not allowed at any time of day, they don't need to be mallrats. My 13 yr old son is not as responsible, so he has an earlier curfew, 7pm weeknights, 8pm weekends. Eventually he may earn more freedom LOL My 11 yr old son is more responsible, but still young, so has the same as my 13 yr old... A lot of parents don't know where there kids are or even if they come home at all, which is so sad  |
Quote: A lot of parents don't know where there kids are or even if they come home at all, which is so sad I agree.. if it is too hard for the parent to know where their child/ren is at all times (as much as possible to know unless the kids sneak out) then they shouldn't have had chilldren. I plan to know where mine are at all times. Even if they start sneaking out to the point where I have to put up a security system. We have to! It really does keep them safer that way. we only do it because we love them.   And if that makes me "uncool" then so be it.MAN! did i totally turn into my parents! Nic |
I am just glad I got through the Teenage Years with my 2 without major problems. 
When we grow up, we often say "never going to be like my mother" but alas we do, they train us well for the future and we train ourselves too as we think Heck there is no way mine are ever going to do what I did, so we are more wiser to the Hijinxs
I think the curfews are good, won't ever stop them sneaking out, but it does stop them from hanging out in the middle of the night in large groups in public places. That's where the trouble starts, one starts the rest follow due to pier pressure. You only hope as they are growing up they get in with a good group of friends. If they don't well troubled times ahead. 
And I think parents should be held liable, especially if there children do vandalism etc. Maybe if parents are made to pay, they might take some more responsibility as to where they are. 
Too many don't care where there kids wander and what they get up to in the middle of the night. |
| They shouldn't be enforced.
They keep kids inside all the time and built stress. Often kids rebel and get in even more trouble. Police are constantly stopping kids and handing out tickets that are rediculous! Kids need free time! They don't have it in school, and at home they are jammed up with homework! It isn't fair if they don't hav a cell phone while cuaght in traffic. They pay the conquences when thy don't even deserve it! |
| you must be a teenager.
they wouldn't have all that built up stress if you made sure your kid was home getting some sleep at these late hours. no reason to be out that late esp. with school. they can play in their backyard if you or your kids have that much stress. |
Joahaeyo wrote: you must be a teenager.
Or just someone that's really bad at spelling and grammar. |
| Blah- spoken like a true teenager! That really made me
laugh. So I guess you are saying that teenagers should be allowed their free time after 10 pm? Like the teeneagers who are going to be running around all night are the ones who are stuck home otherwise with tons of homework and chores.  and generally wrapped up tight in the
rules of adults. Good one. Shellie |
Tasker's Mom wrote: Curfews would not be necessary if parents did their jobs. Unfortunately parents DON'T so I am all for a curfew, cival liberties be damned.
Controlling the kids helps them learn how to controll themselves. If parents aren't going to do it someone needs to. I grew up on a farm and my folks made sure I was too tired to be out runnin the streets. |
| I am personally a teenager, 15 actually. & Have you know it's NOT the parents fault. Us kids sneak out, or go to a friends house to get away and do that stuff. Not ALL parents are bad parents and they do the best of job they can! So dont go blamin the adults because your insecure about that. |
| Someone's been searching again.... necropost - 4 yrs old. So actually you were about 11 when this thread started. Just a babe... Shellie |
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