baby coat on almost 2 yr old
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| What do you mean by "baby coat"? It is possible for them not to have changed coats completely by 2 years old. Every dog is different. |
| OK. I have never had one with such a stubborn coat. He has a couple of spots that still have that downy undercoat. This is my 4th one...so I was a little suprised. I love the breed...they are the only dogs for me. Just trying to get past this tough spot in coat stage. |
| Do you not like the baby coat? That downey undercoat is always supposed to be there, maybe it is just thicker on this dog than your past dogs? |
| That coat is always there (to my knowledge). Many dogs have a thicker undercoat than others. You can remove the undercoat - which helps with keeping them groomed / mat free - but it will continue to grow back throughout their lives (it doesn't stop with age). |
| I am just having a hard time with some matting very close to the skin. It is very difficult to remove. He goes to the groomers every 4-6 weeks. I just don't believe in sending them a matted animal. He gets brushed out regularly. He is a pet...not a show dog. I love the breed though...nothing better than those fuzzy faces...wet or dry. |
| It could be just the time of year... some oes are more prone to matting than others. Do you line brush him down to the skin to catch any mats that may be forming? Do you have a 'dematting rake" or a comb? Does he get wet often? That causes mats to form very quickly.
I brushed Dancer every day for a bit in the morning while I drank my tea, and every afternoon when I got home from work. Sometimes in the evenings too while I was watching tv. Sometimes not every single day, but I don't think more and 3 days would go by where I wouldn't at least do some brushing. I would feel around for mats starting whenever I petted her, and if I found a little one I would work through it with my fingers. Despite all that, when I shaved her down this week I still found a few felty areas under her chin, behind her ears and along her back legs. I dunno *shrug* |
| Hi Wendy,
I am not sure how old your dog is, but I think it might have to do with growing the adult coat in over the baby coat. At least, that is what I think it is with mine. With both of my sheepies they have got their adult coat in rump first and then slowly toward the head. Right now, they have lost all of their puppy hair until it gets to their shoulders and then it is a lot of thick puppy hair that will get matted close to the skin and very quickly. Just keep brushing and it gets so much easier once they get to a certain age. At first, I went and got brushes at our local stores and when I went to a dog show and had someone show me professional products that they use on their OES, it helped me so much. I spent a little more but, I can brush them a lot easier and quicker. Also one show groomer said to not get a brush when the little balls on the top as it will tear out more hair, and to spray a little water on the coat before you start combing and brushing. I brush 6 days a week and comb 1. It seems to work well. I hope that I helped a little, besides just rambling on.  Good luck with the grooming, Stormi and co. |
| Winston will be 2 in September. Maybe it is the progression of the baby coat. He is the worst around his shoulders and around his neck. I am also starting to suspect his collar. It is loose...but I think it might be time to start looking for a rolled leather one. I had one on my last OES, but he never matted. I have had Winston since he was 12 weeks, so he was also my youngest. My last was a rescue dog who was a little grouchy with kids. I am sending Winston and his girlfriend the poodle to the groomers this week, but I will look for a mat rake. I use a slicker brush and a comb, but I think there must be better brush for this coat. The slicker seems to only be good for the final fluff up. Any brush suggestions?
Wendy and Winston |
| That's exactly where Presley mats too! She's 5 years old - so it's not relative to the puppy coat. It's her undercoat that tends to mat in those areas - I don't know if it is because there is more of it in those locations???
Try and get one of the combs/brushes that removes the undercoat - they won't be as fluffy - but they'll be less likely to mat. Presley goes to the groomer monthly - but she still mats - she requires frequent combing/brushing in between her groomer appointments. You can also use thinning shears to remove mats that are really bad - without cutting all the fur and making him look silly! |
| with Jack, we found a cream rinse - gold medal pets makes it, goes for about 8 dollars a bottle. since buying it he hasnt matted at all.
this is especially helpful since now he is a puppy and we groom him each night so he gets used to grooming being pleasing now rather than constant pulling on knots and tangles. |
| Most puppies don't start to mat until the coat changes, anytime between 4 months and a year usually. |
| Jack and Annabelle started mattiing between 9-11 months old, and it came suddenly. I don't keep a collar on either of them except when they are going out our front door. Our back yard if fully fenced. It has helped a lot. They don't ring around the collar that way. LOL Stormi and co. |
I ordered a mat rake with spinning pins and an undercoat rake from petedge grooming supplies online. These seem to do the trick. It's so darn hot right now though, I have to wait until evening to brush. Of course it's playtime for Winston then. Thanks for all the tips.  |
| Ok, now I'm wondering. Lizzie is almost 3, and I didn't notice until I got Cooper that she hadn't really turned very gray. Now that she's been on her thyroid meds, she's finally starting to get her adult coat. Does anyone else notice if a thyroid problem slows down the change to adult coat? |
| And how do you shave the undercoat?
Sofa's downy hair is always matting and we have to keep a very close eye on it... Constant grooming is the only way she stays nice, and these mats are very close to the skin. We have a mat rake and an undercoat rake and that seems to keep it under control, her other coat is very thin and not as abundant as Lennon's. What other tools are required there? |
| I have to admit that I don't shave her- our groomer takes care of that, once a year, in the spring. Then monthly visits for a bath and brush out. I have an undercoat rake also, but haven't used it since we found our present groomer. We use a slicker brush on both Lizzie and Cooper daily , and so far, no mats! Lizzie's coat tends to stick up in odd spots, part of it being puppy coat, and part adult coat. Cooper's will stay smooth longer. I'm noticing that her adult coat is finally coming in, mostly around her rear end right now. |
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