Would you eat cloned meat?
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| Never say never....but I would probably avoid it for a long time and wait until it has been on the market for a few years at least. |
| I agree with Amanda....I dont think Id be the first in line, but after a few years, maybe.... |
| No, I wouldn't. I also don't trust the FDA to tell us what's safe and what isn't. The FDA has approved a lot of food ingredients that have turned out not to be safe, and never "pulls" one once it's shown to be unsafe - trans fats, for one example. I only eat hormone-free meat now, because there is so much evidence that indicates that excess estrogen leads to breast cancer. The FDA approved Bovine Growth Hormones for US beef and milk - which many other countries have never approved. I'll stick with real unaltered food. |
barney1 wrote: (And aside from saying "I don't eat meat" let's try and keep this away from turning into an argument about not eating meat)
Haha, you saw me coming from a mile away didnt ya! |
Lil Walty wrote: barney1 wrote: (And aside from saying "I don't eat meat" let's try and keep this away from turning into an argument about not eating meat) Haha, you saw me coming from a mile away didnt ya! Haha. I thought of you when I saw that comment. For the non-meat eaters, what about cloned or genetically altered vegetables? Are there already genetically altered veggies? If so, how can we tell the difference? |
| No. I wouldn't voluntarily eat it. It would have to be under seriously dire circumstances.
The whole idea of cloning things doesn't sit well with me.  |
| The article was concentrating on one farmer and the interesting thing was that he apparently had a fabulous cow in the 80s and 90s and then she got too old to produce milk and someone suggested cloning her, so he did, and so he has 2 cloned cows on his farm.
They said that they are following a voluntary ban on putting cloned meat (or milk) into the food chain. But this farmer is having financial difficulties and he said that unless something changes soon, he's going to have to put the cloned cows into the food chain. He said he has no choice. To me, that is very disturbing that he can just 'put them into the food chain' like that, even before the FDA has ruled on safety issues. |
That is disturbing. 
So, for all we know, it could already be in the food chain. |
Sheepie Heaven wrote: Are there already genetically altered veggies? If so, how can we tell the difference?
Yep, they're called GMO's (genetically modified organisms) and there is no requirement that they are labelled. If you eat soybeans or smoke cigarettes chances are you consume GMO's regularly. They also genetically modify the mice that they do research on (mice are exceptions to all animal welfare laws in vivisection, so they can do anything they want to them). |
| Well, I don't eat soybeans or smoke, so I guess I'm okay there.
Don't they genetically modify vegetables to grow larger - or is that just a rumour/myth? |
| it appears to me that you lack the OF COURSE option ... i would .. think about that from a scientific stand point ... it would create an ENDLESS supply of meat ... think of all the starving people we could feed all of the sudden ... if we didnt have to wait for cows (for example) to mature ...
in addition think of all the jobs it would create... somone would need to make sure all those animals were healthy enough to eat ... would need to butcher them ... and of course would need to package ship sell ect . if they could clone animals sucsessfully .. i would TOTALLY eat them .  |
Sheepie Heaven wrote: Well, I don't eat soybeans or smoke, so I guess I'm okay there.
Don't they genetically modify vegetables to grow larger - or is that just a rumour/myth? yes they do .. they also modify things like canola to have MORE blooms to produce a larger yeild of oil ect. the've been doing it a long time The university of Saskatoon has MANY courses in that feild |
hide_the_cookies wrote: it appears to me that you lack the OF COURSE option ... i would .. think about that from a scientific stand point ... it would create an ENDLESS supply of meat ... think of all the starving people we could feed all of the sudden ... if we didnt have to wait for cows (for example) to mature ...
in addition think of all the jobs it would create... somone would need to make sure all those animals were healthy enough to eat ... would need to butcher them ... and of course would need to package ship sell ect . if they could clone animals sucsessfully .. i would TOTALLY eat them . Cloned animals start out as babies... they are "born". Cloning doesn't produce an adult animal... so you would still have to wait for the animal to mature. |
Quote: No. I wouldn't voluntarily eat it. It would have to be under seriously dire circumstances.
The whole idea of cloning things doesn't sit well with me. Confused ABSOLUTELY AGREE |
| http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/12/28/cl ... index.html
The decision has been made... I wonder how many of the studies that proved the safety of eating cloned meat/vegetables were funded by Big Agriculture? Personally I will continue to pay more for organic food. hide_the_cookies wrote: think of all the starving people we could feed all of the sudden ...
We already have the capacity to feed everyone in the world. The US government pays farmers to let land lie fallow or destroy crops just to keep the prices up high enough so that farmers can afford to stay in business. If there was a concerted effort to feed all of the hungry, without a profit margin, it could be done. Governments and wars create more starvation that a true shortage of food. I wonder if cloning will lead to a drop in food prices? If you're cloning your most productive milk cows or fastest growing pigs, you should get more output for lower cost. The producer will either lower prices or take a bigger profit margin... wanna bet which will happen? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against capitalism as long as everyone is honest about the fact that cloning is not "better for people", it's "better for profit margins". |
I saw it on the news a few hours ago too. I was like, "who ran this crap by me first?!?!"   |
| I read that they said that there will still be a few months before it is actually given the official go ahead that it is okay...and that they (I don't know who 'they' is) will be listening to consumers about their thoughts on the subject...
Personally, I am just going to shell out more $$ for organic (more than I already do!). I have a feeling that it won't sit well with a lot of people, but so many people can't afford to buy organic meat so will just buy their regular meat anyways, so there won't be much of a fight against this 
and with my poll that I did, with almost half saying that either they would or they would think about it, that's not good odds about America saying no to this. I just think that if they are going to allow cloned meat into the food source, it should be labeled as such... |
barney1 wrote: Personally, I am just going to shell out more $$ for organic (more than I already do!).
I currently HAVE to buy organic due to my sons allergy. he is allergic to all artificial additives, preservatives and colorings. They make him go absolutly ape. He cant sleep cant sit still. he was kicked out of day cares and has problems in schools because ebven there is is forced to wash his hands with the stuff that send him loopey, or breathe the aresols to make the classroom smell fresher.. all these things harm him.. but no one stops..and its all becuase of things deemed "safe" by the FDA and all its conterparts... organic is safe..it is the ONLY safe way to go.. all others are smoke n mirrors..Sorry.. but food issues like this hit home for this family big style.. =/ |
| I still don't trust radiated food!!!!! Why would I jump on the cloned wagon? |
Tanks wrote: organic is safe..it is the ONLY safe way to go.. all others are smoke n mirrors..Sorry.. but food issues like this hit home for this family big style.. =/
Me too - my husband is allergic to MSG, which is in everything. The FDA has also allowed the dilution of the term "organic", so that producers who aren't truly natural can use the term in their labelling. So you have to really research your food sources to be sure you're not getting anything dangerous. It's sad, the FDA was established to protect consumers but now is just a rubber stamp for big food producers. |
barney1 wrote: The article was concentrating on one farmer and the interesting thing was that he apparently had a fabulous cow in the 80s and 90s and then she got too old to produce milk and someone suggested cloning her, so he did, and so he has 2 cloned cows on his farm.
They said that they are following a voluntary ban on putting cloned meat (or milk) into the food chain. But this farmer is having financial difficulties and he said that unless something changes soon, he's going to have to put the cloned cows into the food chain. He said he has no choice. To me, that is very disturbing that he can just 'put them into the food chain' like that, even before the FDA has ruled on safety issues. this was on the news earlier the calf was born the beginning of december over here ill see if i can find the link to it |
| What really bugs me is that they are going to sell the cloned meat in the grocery stores without specifying on the label if it was cloned or not. Don't we, the consumer, have a right to know!?!?!?!?!? |
| GROSS |
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