Help in Choosing between jobs
http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=9572 Well, since then he has been doing fine, working only a few hours on the weekends, and settling in well. BTW, the girl they had originally given it to has since been demoted. He got a call a couple weeks ago from the manager, lets call him Steven, who had left in the summer. This was the gentleman who had promised him the promotion, raise and and made him Employee of the Month. Steven had left the company before all was delivered, and that caused all the problems. Steve is now working for another restaurant chain and they are opening up a brand nwe restuurant in 3 weeks Steven offered my son a job over the phone...a dollar an hour more money, a promotion..again...to line cook in any station he wants, and whatever shift he wants. He also will be put on a schedule to learn each of the other stations, with a small raise as they are each learned. Spencer and I went to the job fair, we met the management and all looks great. The owner spoke to my son and told him that he normally is concerned with teenagers due to lack of committment and responsiblity, and they are paying him way more than anyone else. But that Steve, being the hiring manager, has assured him that Spencer was worth it. Spencer thought about it for a couple days, as he was a bit intimidated by the owner and the expectations, but ended up deciding to go for the new job and gave his 2 weeks notice last week. Training on the new job starts next week. Now the old manager wants Spencer to go in tonite to talk to him. He has offered to match whatever money the new place is offering him. Spencer is torn. He has been there for a year, and knows the ins and out so is very comfortable there. But he is also intrigued by the new place, yet afraid that he won't live up to thier expectations and disappoint himself and them. What can I suggest to him that might help him to make his decision? |
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| Well, I think this is a great time to teach him, or at least to dialog about loyalty. I remember the previous post and how it was touch and go there for awhile as to how things would work out. But things DID work out for you son and if I remember correctly he did get what he was promised.
For young people, the grass is always greener. Change is fun and exciting. But there is something to be said for staying with an employer and building a history. I'm not say he absolutely should stay where he is but if they have matched his new offer I would give serious consideration. He is at an age where he is starting to build a resume. Longevity and advancement within the same organization speak well of him. He is young and there will be lots of opportunities coming down the road for him, especially if he is a good and depndable a worker as it sounds like he is. If he changes jobs everytime something new comes along then in a few years his resume will look like he does not have stability in his job history. |
| Wow -- nice to have options! I tend to be a bird in the hand type myself. I think new restaurants are a risky proposition and instead of worrying about failing to meet their expectations, I would be worried about the restaurant failing to stay in business. But he is young and perhaps job security is not the most important thing.
I would ask him what it is that he thinks he might get out of the new experience that is missing in his current job. Can he rely on this guy Steven since he previously left before meeting his prior commitments to Spencer? I think it is a bit odd for them to tell him he will get paid way more than anyone else. That could make for bad relations with his future colleagues. I would think that more money at the current job is a pretty good deal unless he's unhappy with the environment, experience, responsibility etc. But this might be a great chance to address any such issues. |
| I think he should stay put. It will look better on his resume in the future to be committed for as long as is reasonable to a job, unless something better comes along. |
| Sounds like an amazing opportunity at the new job, but if his current job is willing to match their offer (and follow through), then it will look better on his resume to have stayed at a job for a length of time and getting promoted to having more responsibility during that time.
Some good points have been made - something like 90% of new restaurants fail within the first year(s).... unless of course it's a Tim Horton's! 
If he doesn't expect to be at either job beyond highschool, then the new opportunity could be an amazing learning experience. Plus, with all the cooking skills he'll learn - he'll make an awesome hubby someday! Maybe help him list the pros and cons of each option and discuss. By the end of the discussion he'll probably know what he wants to do. Best of luck to him! |
| Well the meeting happened and this is the scoop.
The full offer by the existing place is not quite as good as the new one, but does include a raise now and training starting immediately for another promotion. One thing that did bother me a bit is that the manager bad-mouthed "Steven" and his work while he was there...a lot. It always makes me uncomfortable when employers stoop to that level. Side by side the new job is still better.... We had a good talk about loyalties...and I am glad that it was mentioned. Spencer said that he would not leave if it was the same job/pay etc. He likes where he is...In December it will make a full year he is there...which is long for a kitchen employee. Out of a kitchen staff of around 40 there are maybe 5 who have been there as long as he has. That is the nature of the business....lots of turnover... He mentioned this in his meeting and his boss told him that if it doesn't work out he would hire him back ....but at his existing pay and position.... Both restaurants are very successful chains/franchises, so that is not a concern. And when the owner of the new place told Spencer he is the highest paid he meant the highest paid of kids in a similiar age...And I had already told Spencer that salary is NOT to be discussed with co-workers. The fellow shouldn't have said anything, and as a new business owner he has lots to learn..! So Spencer will sleep on it for a couple of days, get input from his older brother and a couple of his teachers, and then make his decision. He is quite impressed that he has two great opportunities and doesn't want to rush. My husband and I are staying out of it....We are bringing up points for him to consider, and playing devil's advocate for both jobs, but we don't want to influence him one way or the other....That is SOOOOO hard to do! |
Bosley's mom wrote: What can I suggest to him that might help him to make his decision?
To follow his gut instinct or intuition. |
| Since you said that he only works a few hours on the weekends, will this new job include a lot more work? I'm sure it will initially, just because new jobs tend to, but that might be something to consider, especially since he's still in school and has limited free time.
I don't think it's bad that Steven said Spencer would be making more than most kids his age. It's not saying that Spencer is making more than the other employees at the restaurant, to me it seems more like a general statement of kids your age tend to make minimum wage and you aren't. I say go for it if he feels like it's a good move. He still has several years of high school left, so I don't think that anyone has to worry about a move in jobs looking bad on his resume...he could possibly work at this new place for a few years before college. Plus, I would hope that most employers won't look at a high school student's job longevity as a negative indicator for their present employment prospects. People are (duh) young in high school and can be totally different people by the time they are in college and beyond. Go Spencer! |
| I am all for gaining experience and he is in a position to try new things on. His life is still at home, and this is extra for him. So I think he should take the chance and if it doesn't work out then he gained a life lesson.
I applaud his ability to stick it out in a restaurant, it was my first summer job. I actually loved it because the management liked me...it was a steak/buffet place. I am NOT good at fast food (A&W). It was the most pressure of all the jobs I've been in, and everyone was grouchy. But it did give me a new respect for the people who do work there. I just happened to have bad management. If he has fun at the current place, and really enjoys who he is working with then that makes it tough to say good-bye. But if the people are tough to be around, then a change might be good. I tried many different jobs and I didn't have a problem finding work because of it. But I always left on good terms, it was ususally scheduling between different jobs....I seemed to be doing 2-3 different things to make rent. However hubby has been with his job for 11 years now, and he still enjoys it. But it was a learning experience before he found his passion. |
| One of the conditions of the promotion at his old job was he keeps his same job/shift on the weekend, and picks up addition shifts for his training on his promotion during the week. For us working during the school week is not really desired, unless it is 1 or 2 nites, and only for a few hours. He is in high school and school work is number one.
He can pick his shift at the new job, and prefers working weekend evenings. Spencer is not one to spend time hanging out on the streets or at the mall. He has decided to take the new job....better hours, better pay, and he knows his new boss who really likes him. He starts tomorrow evening. These are not fast food restaurants. They are Steak and Rib type roadhouses, and he will be a line cook....several stations to learn. As he learns each one he is tested and once he passes he is given a small raise and then an opportunity to learn another station. So thanks for all the input that I was able to share with him...He did not burn his bridges (I had to explain that term to him) so if things don't work out, well, he can go back....And if they do...hurray, hurray! I'm relieved, because I don't have to wash uniforms anymore.....they do that onsite....  |
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